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Lebowski

So are you going to buy our Christmas card idea or not?

Whilst nobody will die if you get something wrong, marketing has caused plenty of deaths when done well - fags, booze etc.

Great summation of the inherent difficulties in feeding back. And a list I know from experience you follow. Which is good.

helenltaylor

Showing the work to a bunch of non-marketing people and listening/watching them discuss what they think helps too;-)

Seriously though, and if nothing else, it helps you to figure out what you are thinking and feeling about the work anyway.

(I find researching creative work the hardest, most challenging and frightening kind of work to do - fun though)

Colman

Helen, I was actually talking about stuff well before it is ready for research (if you choose that route).

Although I do like to show my mum and ask her opinion.

Ben

1,2,6 and 11 are brilliant.

Maybe you are a great client after all.

helenltaylor

All your thoughts would still be valid at a later stage, though maybe you would need to add - 'try to look at it with fresh eyes' later on?

Showing it to your mum is pretty much what I was meant, it doesn't need to be formal research.

Javier Aldana

Point 6 is vital. Sometimes i think i should write it in my visit card. "Javier Aldana is not your work/idea enemy" :S

Rusty-Chubb

Nicely put.

An old client of mine had the curious habit of not letting us set up the creative - no strategic schpeel, nothing. We said hullo and showed him ideas. He'd say that consumers didn't have this luxury, why should he?

However frustrating, this practice was beneficial. Because when it came time for client to provide feedback, the agency was already aware of the works shortcomings. A strong set up can make people see things in the work that don't really exist.

Of course, we'd have long chats about the strategy afterwards but it was a different way of evaluating work and I've never met a client who has worked that way since.

Colman

Rusty-Chubb, in my experience the more closely you collaborate with your agency partners the less need there is for the strategy preamble. It should be clear to everyone what you're doing and why.

Helen, mum's know best.

henry Lambert

great post P.

Gavin Heaton

Hi Paul ... this is excellent. Hope you don't mind, but I have added a few items and turned this into a checklist document. Let me know if you have a problem with it.
Gavin

Colman

Of course not Gavin - that's why I posted it.

What have you added?

Kerry

I wonder does anyone have any ideas how I can get some insights into how to probe for client feedback. Rather than I just don't like it. Any resources I can look into?
Thanks

Gavin Heaton

Paul ... I was just looking over this post and the checklist again. You mentioned you were going to do something on how to provide feedback on messaging. Did you ever get around to it? (I have been digging around but haven't found it.)

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